All hail the true Willys Jeep descendant.

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 07/13/2017 at 17:39 • Filed to: None

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Wranglers? pfffft.

100 hp

1100-1280 lbs payload [couple hundred more than a wrangler]

2 or 4 passengers

all terrain capability

1600-1900 lbs dry weight

Street Legal

Served its country

If the Army put out the same RFP now as it did then...this is what would have resulted.

Think about it.

bob and john > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 17:41

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“Street Legal”????

eh? you cant plate these in canada 

HammerheadFistpunch > bob and john 07/13/2017 at 17:45

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Canada has roads?!

bob and john > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 17:47

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America can read?

stupid insults aside, ud think the ONE place you should be able to plate these for the street is canada. but nooooooo

benjrblant > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 17:47

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Just keep it off the trail.

HammerheadFistpunch > bob and john 07/13/2017 at 17:47

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We’re learning so much about each other, neighbor.

HammerheadFistpunch > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 17:51

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I don’t mind them on the trail so long as they are respectful. I really dislike them generally on account of the fact that most aren’t and they are very loud and like to rip past campsites at 1 am to try out their artificial suns lightbars.

Truthfully though, taken at face value alone, they are pretty neat machines. Its the users that have ruined them for me.

WiscoProud > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 17:56

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I honestly want a Honda Pioneer 1000-5. The benefits you listed, but it can carry five people, three in the front and two in back. The back two can be folded into a bed for added capacity. Throw in an actual 6 speed (motorcycle) transmission, paddle shifters, dual lockers, etc. and you have a nice trail vehicle for taking the family out.

Admittedly, if we had near the amount of off road trails I you guys do, I would just stick with my truck, but there are significantly more ATV trails by me.

benjrblant > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 17:56

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Last run-in we had with a set of RZR’s was in the mountains just before all the snow was melted. We’d pulled to the side of the trail and were just discussing how it would be better to not push through the remaining 3-foot drifts and not shred the trail to bits. No sooner had I said this than a group of RZR’s roared past, spinning tires, sliding left and right across the trail, shredding everything in sight and slinging a slurry of snowy muddy slush all over myself and the trucks we’d parked.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 17:58

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It is funny how most Americans laugh at small cars, but the same guys that talk shit about “tiny four cylinder cars” looooove these things.

HammerheadFistpunch > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 17:58

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ayup.

benjrblant > bob and john 07/13/2017 at 17:58

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But why plate one of these when you can import something at 15 years?

RPM esq. > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:01

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I can’t articulate exactly why, but I feel like this simultaneously overestimates and underestimates the original Willys. Maybe it’s just because I like Willys Jeeps and hate these no matter how capable they are and you’re right after all.

If your peaceful camping/hunting/fishing trip is ruined by a bunch of fucking yahoos revving deafening engines at random intervals and shooting their guns at anything that moves, or doesn’t, you can bet one of these is involved.

HammerheadFistpunch > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/13/2017 at 18:01

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well the power to weight is pretty good and they are geared to go no faster than 65 so they move along really nicely.

I mean, 100 for 1900 lbs? not bad.

Milky > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:03

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Obiglatory

If you haven’t seen the Motor Trend comparison, you should.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:05

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I have similar feelings about jet skis on lakes. Impressive machines, but ruined by the average operator.

HammerheadFistpunch > RPM esq. 07/13/2017 at 18:05

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One thing I am perfectly clear on...UTV USERS are, generally speaking, terrible.

They saved my butt last fall in Moab when I bonked hard on a mountain bike trip but getting a few hours ride back to safety with them was a stark illuminiation of the stereotype:

On a trail they’d never done

Without a map

in the evening

way above their skill level

drunk

bob and john > benjrblant 07/13/2017 at 18:05

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meh. importing crap is a bitch.

DipodomysDeserti > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:05

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I learned the other week that you can fit as many as eight people in them if you really try!

You know that skinny dirt road north of Salt Lake that winds up and into the Wasatch National Forest? Yeah, whole bunch of people stuffed into one screaming around a bend on that tiny road. No helmets. One of them almost got a nice little Warn facial tattoo.

HammerheadFistpunch > Milky 07/13/2017 at 18:06

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Yeah, That kept popping into my head. That was years ago and they’ve certainly gotten better since then. That this has more payload than some Ram 1500's is nuts.

HammerheadFistpunch > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 07/13/2017 at 18:06

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pretty much.

HammerheadFistpunch > DipodomysDeserti 07/13/2017 at 18:07

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Not even remotely shocked. this is the drunken frat boy golf cart meets ATV

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:08

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They’re also quick.

DipodomysDeserti > bob and john 07/13/2017 at 18:13

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benjrblant > RPM esq. 07/13/2017 at 18:13

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At $18k entry pricepoint for the model in the above photo, (some nicer 4-seat models hitting upwards of $27k) I’d rather spring for a CJ-2A or an FJ40 any day.

itschrome > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:30

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that thing is seriously street legal?

HammerheadFistpunch > itschrome 07/13/2017 at 18:31

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in my state...sadly.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:32

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But then you add 500 pounds of middle aged American couple, and cooler full of beer.

Chinny Raccoon > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:34

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The UTVs don’t hold up so well when they are loaded. Too much bike engineering in a heavy vehicle.

I’d say the Suzuki Jimny is closer, although less ‘murica.

Frenchlicker > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:37

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The military one is upfitted to hold more.

DipodomysDeserti > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:38

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I would still rock one. The ultimate minimalist overlander.

HammerheadFistpunch > Frenchlicker 07/13/2017 at 18:38

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yup over 3k lbs payload! nutty.

Frenchlicker > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 18:39

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They are normally terrible for a couple of reasons. Mostly because they are the type that want to buy something that can go off-road but don’t realize it can only go places most Jeeps can go and cost more than an old Jeep that can do more.

nermal > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 07/13/2017 at 18:55

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Jet skis are awesome if you’re the one riding it. Awful if somebody else is riding one in your vicinity.

shop-teacher > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2017 at 19:21

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I really want one of these, but cannot justify the price. There’s nowhere around here to use one, and I know I won’t be able to haul it somewhere to use it nearly often enough to make it worth it.

My rallycross group allows these to run, and it looks like an insane amount of fun.

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 07/14/2017 at 07:07

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Having run rented RZR1000s they are literally the most fun you can have offroad, period.

So Shiney. So Chrome! So Frunky > HammerheadFistpunch 07/14/2017 at 08:41

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Don’t be sad. Japanese Kei class vehicles are sometimes seen as basically a UTV by the DMV. So if UTV’s are street legal so is that Suzuki Cappuccino you know you want.